Tuesday, November 25, 2008

Tim Kring Admits They're Making It All Up As They Go Along

Normally, I'd be loathe to quote from a source as disreputable as Ain't It Cool News. But since this actually explains a lot of last night's episode - and the whole Eclipse - thing...

SOURCE: Showrunner Kring: No More
References To HEROES’ Caitlin!!


SOURCE:Tim Kring Says Heroes Is Fine, It's the Audience That's the Problem

When the fan asked if Peter would ever acknowledge Caitlin or express any grief over what seems to be her dire fate, Kring replied, "No, we passed it. We leapfrogged it." He added that when the idea of returning to Caitlin was brought up, they asked, "Really? Are we going to risk that? We have enough stuff to [deal with]."

So... yeah. The Irish girl Peter fell in love with? We're not going to see her anymore. Because there's too much stuff going on. Because the audience is so much more interested in the whole world-blowing-up thing than in all of the wonderful, sympathetic characters. And because there is no way Peter - the most empathic person on the cast - who just lost this woman he loved in a crapsack future, what, A COUPLE OF WEEKS ago on the show's timeline, is going to be interested in bending Heaven and Earth to save her?

Kring, I defended your comments that DVR was killing the serialized drama because - unlike all the people at Ain't It Cool News or Topless Robot who quoted you in part and spun it around that you hated the show's fanbase - I got it. I got your point.

Your point was that TV Shows are ratings dependent and that it's very hard to keep a fanbase coming back, week after week like in Ye Olden Times, when there are people who record the shows to watch later in a block, watch them on-line (as I did this morning) or download them from bittorent sites all around the world, so they don't have to wait 3 weeks for the BBC to broadcast it. I get that. And since the only thing that gets monitored is the Nielsen system which only monitors who is watching a show as it is broadcast live, odds are the system ISN'T recording the numbers of your audience accurately.

That being said - there IS no defense for calling the only people who are apparently convincing the network that anybody is watching the show and thus keeping you employed "...saps and the dip****s who can't figure out how to watch it in a superior way."

Still, you did apologize for the way you put that earlier. And because this last episode honestly does seem to be turning things around for a lot of the characters, I'm going to give it one more chance with next week's episode.

I would give you one piece of advice, though. Based on one of your comments, it seems that you realized - on some level - that the show lost its' way a while ago.

"I was primarily fascinated by the origin story. Once the original story is over, and the character has no more questions about what's happening or existential drama, then the questions become just about plot, and then it becomes harder for me personally to connect to."

So go back to the original idea for Season Two. Get a whole NEW cast of people who aren't sure what is going on as they manifest powers and throw them into a crisis as they rise to the occasion. Anything to end this endless stream of the same six people becoming more and more powerful and more and more hokey, soap-opera twists being mined to death.

3 comments:

  1. So... yeah. The Irish girl Peter fell in love with? We're not going to see her anymore.
    I did a happy dance. I really hated that storyline. lol
    Of course, I'm still hoping they keep Mohinder busy and/or dead enough that he never goes after Maya either. And, seriously, dude, she wouldn't want to see you. Chica is dumb but not that dumb. Even when you aren't crazy you're useless. Keep your dumb genes to yourself!
    "I was primarily fascinated by the origin story. Once the original story is over, and the character has no more questions about what's happening or existential drama, then the questions become just about plot, and then it becomes harder for me personally to connect to."
    So let someone ELSE take over the show. Bow out gracefully. There's no harm in setting it up and moving on. If Russell Davies had stepped out after Season 1 one of DW, there's a lot of dumb that probably never would've happened. Sometimes it's good to let go. I mean YOU, George Lucas. Hands off the Star Wars. And the Indiana Jones. Y'know what? Just don't touch ANYTHING.
    ...sorry that rant got so off track. lol

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  2. I did a happy dance. I really hated that storyline. lol
    Hey, I like Caitlin. And even if she was written out of the series, she deserved better than getting abandoned in some nightmarish alternate future.
    I'd kinda like to see her again just so we know what happens to someone who is left behind in an alternate future. Does she poof with the reality? Does it change around her so she's suddenly standing in a field in Ireland 3 years in the future instead of in a death camp? Does she get shunted back to where she was meant to be?
    Besides, you have to admit it was REALLY out of character for Peter to just forget about her. The guy who traveled across the country to save a complete stranger when he had a really wonky, uncontrolable power isn't going to tell his partner in crime "hold on a second" as he goes to save the woman he loves? Bullshit.

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  3. And even if she was written out of the series, she deserved better than getting abandoned in some nightmarish alternate future.
    Okay, that I'll grant you. And it wasn't so much me disliking the character as intensely disliking the whole storyline and situation... which led to marked indifference toward the character and a desire to not revisit that particular story. heh
    Besides, you have to admit it was REALLY out of character for Peter to just forget about her.
    True. I'm chalking it up to Peter being not so bright and, apparently, having a memory like a goldfish.

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